The need for a legitimate ABDL social network is something I have desired for a long time. There are a few ABDL social networks online but they all have serious flaws that render them basically useless and are just breeding grounds for people to look at photos all day and to bother people. The ABDL community would really benefit I think from a social network that is well run, well-moderated, and has a good abundance of features that emphasizes getting to know others rather than just for looking at browsing photos. As is now, unfortunately, the best social network for ABDLs is DiaperSpace and everybody knows how incompetent that site is and the problems it has…but as it stands, that is the best we got. Which, it is unfortunate.
I know the intricacies that are involved in running a huge social network are large and probably costly but I think if somebody were to do it right then it really could turn out to be not only helpful for the ABDL community in general but in the end it would pay back what is put into it if done properly. I think where sites go wrong is they rush to throw up some social network that runs but it runs poorly and hopes that it attracts a ton of users…and when it does the site slows down, problems arise, people leave and the site dies. That is the typical cycle for a lot of these ABDL social networks. The one exception really being DiaperSpace and that site still dies sometimes and is slow a lot of times too; not to mention the sketchy ways they inflate their users and they are extremely profit-hungry according to a lot of people. They are also very strict in regards to things that should be allowed freely on that site. The site is poorly moderated in general and is just a breeding ground for people to look at photos and stalk. The owners are purely concerned about the monetary aspect of the site.
A good social network would be willing to put forth the right amount of money up front to get the site in the right direction and running smooth and all that…then, when people start coming and finding out the legitimacy of the site -it grows. Then, in the end the site owner can not only have a good working ABDL social network but also probably can earn back what they put in through advertisements or other means – which is perfectly acceptable in my mind assuming the site is well run and its main goal is to enhance a “socialness” within the ABDL community rather than just a photo breeding ground.
Its obviously not that easy but its a good general outline I think of behind the scenes what needs to be done to make a good ABDL social network. Just my thoughts! I would surely support anyone willing to engage in this..
Being a network admin, I do totally agree. I only visit DiaperSpace when I get an alert due to how slow it has been sometimes.
diaperspace is always down when I want to take a look. My puter says no internet connection available. Its been down for me now 3 days..
Thats funny I was just thinking of this, This morning. I sure hope this kind of social site isnt a lost cause. But I have total faith if anyone could do it would be you Adrian. I really miss DLTown. Even the Domain is for sale.
We don’t have the advertising quota to run a social network yet. A person could use all the adult AB/DL websites and put up their banners, but beyond just diaper ads, I can’t see what kind of revenue a person has to sustain a social networking without using erotic ads.
Hi the Adrian and all readers. Yeah, it kinda no fun that DiaperSpace is down. I like to read the open blogs just to see what people have to say. Some are dumb as can be and others are alright. I readily agree that there is much Need for a Legitimate ABDL Social Network. Lately I’ve just been reading some stories over on DialyDiapers. That site is better than DiaperSpace I feel here as of late since DiaperSpace is down for who knows how long and whatever the reason hapens to be.
A few other related sites for diaper videos are Diapermates.com and DprTube.com Those sites I think need to keep those videos in check for as nasty and I mean nasty as they are. The videos over on DiaperSpace might not have work most of the time, but were a lot more a reasonable side as to video content.
I mentioned in another post that I had plans to attend (no Pun intended to Attends Ha! Ha!) a AB/DL munch. I was already to hit the road to go and had to stop before I even got out of town. I lost a belt that ran my water pump and the Alternater to charge the battery. That was not nice at all. I was lucky it happened not to far from my house so I could get back home blow off steam and get some house chores done. Good and Bad all in one. Take your pick. Hopefully the 3rd time will be the charm next month on the 21st I think.
Say Adrian, if by any chance your ever decided to change carrers, I think you would be the best around to moderate any AB/DL site and would most likey have the support of all your loyal readers to back you up as clean and tasteful as your blogsite is as compare to other sites that are not. I think thats it for my reply for now untill I can think of other things to mention.
I would like a DL only social community.
i have to agree with this and severe modering is a must imo , just like any other social place , this would be an interesting concept that i have wanted or tought plenty ,
i would see it work with Absolute Zero Diaper images or of that nature , run it straight like an average / out of the norm networking place so you eliminate all that jazz or trouble vs folks only looking to pic ! thing
yes lets do it! just need the server and lets get hands started cause one of my dreams is to open an ABDL store with abdl employees wich includes incontinente people too and as the products for them off course. Why not starting by a website?
Do you agree?
I agree very much, and as a PHP coder I would volunteer to code for free if you should ever want to start something like this. As for “DL only” etc. I’d say that we should keep everything to one site and just have really good filtering options and features so that things that you never wanna see, never shows up. That’s just my thought…
i hope with all of my tiny little heart that someone can do this. if you can, i’m in and you have my support. there’s just too many idiots on these other places. i’ve something like 23 friends on ds ya know how many i talk to? one.
Adrian i think you’ve got the best group of people right here, minus just a few of course.
I am sure that you would be the right person to create this abdl social network, myself and most of the abdl community would stand with your cause
I agree with the above posts. Starting a site without videos and endless pictures could be very helpful. Why not strongly mimic a true dating site without the additional “bells and whistles?”
Of course people should be allowed to attach thumbnail pictures of themselves, but leave it at that. The less opportunity for people to, as Adrian says, to just look at pictures or erotic video all day would go a long way toward inspiring real conversation and connectedness.
Wow, as I write this, I’m thinking back to when I first began using the web to learn about my interests. While 1996 wasn’t the dark ages exactly, I guess you have to be impressed at how far the web and the ab/dl community has come.
Just when you feel down it’s important to remember how much we’ve already gained!
just dont forget about your blog, will you?
There needs to be depth to the members. I think that a lot of profiles end up being mostly about diapers. Don’t take up the challenge too soon just from others encouraging it. There needs to be a lot of work done, and probably a lot of funding to start it. Plus, paying to join may also be an issue.
Why don’t you propose an design? Just an idea of what it would be like, or how you imagine it, and what it could do for people.
A while back when DS was enforcing all kinds of ridiculous rules on people, I started programming a new DL community where we could help moderate ourselves and push creepers into a corner where they belong and can not bother us anymore. As a professional Applications/Web developer for the last 10 years I’ve more than enough knowledge and adequate resources to finish building it now to replace DS. The problem I ran into is that when I mentioned the idea to everyone on the dailydiapers boards and other sites there was very little response at all and what I got was rather neutral. So since the community seemed content to use diaperspace, I didn’t bother wasting my time.
@Adrian: I know you’ve been involved in the community for many years as I have. I’m sure you don’t remember me, but we’ve talked a few times over the years lol At any rate, if you would be interested in helping to motivate me to finish the site I started over a year ago by polling ABDL for support (moral only please, I appreciate anyone who thought about financial support, but I’ll take care of all costs :P). If we can get a group of “Yes, I’d love that” together, then I’ll start using my free time to finish building the site.
Diaperspace.com does not resolve a DNS address. The domain registration may not be current. According to GoDaddy.com, DS is up for auction. That means someone failed to renew the domain name with the proper group.
The fly in the ointment to this idea is the nature of the site. As Athena mentioned even if all the ABDL marketers paid for ads on the site it would not be enough to fully support itself. Take a look at main stream social networks like face book, no wayout in left field subject matter like we have, thus not limitations to who would advertise. That is the one big red flag that waves in my mind as far as making a big investment in a site (even one that is not looking for monetary gains) I am NO expert, just a common sense type person so, hey I could be totally wrong. But to top things off, say you do limit or throwout all pics and video, saves alot in bandwidth expense, but also cuts down alot on membership. Thus cuts down on advertising.
I do want to leave on a positive note though. Adrian this is the most informative and interesting site I have ran across dealing with abdl. The quality of people you have on your blog/website are the tops, creme of the crop. You yourself have helped me more than you will ever know in my life as a DL and it would be great to build friendships with some of the others that visit your site. Just my opinon take it or leave it, as long as a friendship stays intact, I’m good. 🙂
There is a possible social networking solution, which is Diaspora it can be found here, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/196017994/diaspora-the-personally-controlled-do-it-all-distr
Simply put it’s a decentralized social networking server that allows for heavy privacy and security to the user. If they allow this to be open source, the ABDL community as a whole could use this piece of technology very handedly.
ADRIAN SOMEONE IS USING YOUR NAME IN A FORMSPRING ACCOUNT, in a question.
“Im an incon girl named Adrian Surley. Do you want to be an incont girl too and be my friend? I swear Im real! Girls dont lie! Just ask my BF Peter! Hes incont too!!! please be my friend? no one likes me…….”
the link – http://www.formspring.me/missbambina
Hugo – I just ignore her. There will always be people like that in life. Whether its hate, jealousy, or whatever. She must just get bored and enjoy picking fights. She needs to just grow up and mature a little bit. I won’t judge her.
God! How people do enjoy that? Yep, you’ve choosen the right decision 🙂
Regarding everyone’s comments. Yes, there are def. formidable barriers to success. Funding, profitability and self-sufficiency being key. At the very least, thanks to Adrian and this healthy, safe, blog, perhaps we’ve all begun to connect with each other.
Any suggestions regarding that angle?
Also, not sure if this is as helpful as Chippymonk’s technical skill set, but I have some seven years experience in media and politics. Perhaps, if properly egged (more like cheered) on, down the road I could offer my writing ability, should the need arise.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Just a heads up. I secured a new domain name for the site and will dig up the old design this weekend and pick up the coding where I left off. I feel like this is something we need and that I have the skill set to not only make it happen, but make it a success for all of us. My overall goal is a social networking site which instills confidence and a sense of security in members both new and old. With a splash of dating site tools in there for people who do want to actively seek relationships 😉
I’ll post the URL once I have a blog set up on the domain so that everyone can follow the progress of the development and offer suggestions/feedback on ideas and systems as they develop 🙂
Adrian, I think that if a site was created, that a trusted staff of friends could moderate the site, making it impossible for it to be anything close to sexually oriented, just a friendly network for ab/dl to meet other people and make some friends
I happened to run into http://www.imabdl.com which to me seems to be at least something people are after. They seem to have quite a lot of users already. I don’t know how future safe their entry fee of 9.99 USD is, but at least it will filter out all people who are not serious about it. No, I have not joined myself, so I don’t know what it has inside. Please look it out yourself.
Hi Again. I don’t quite know where I myself would stand on a fee for a site such as imabdl.com Sure I do my banking and some online shopping at sites that I know and all that but not to sure as to a member type site such as this one here and it looks to be ok for the most part.
This site right here is pretty good for the most part. A lot of AB/DL stories and a lot of forums with a lot of different topics covering just about anything of the AB/DL community. Some good and some not. Just varies on the point of view of the person reading what is there.
I would just say, even though a moderated social networking site would be great, it is possible to be TOO restrictive. For example, I have used adisc.org. They are so restrictive on their site, esp. their chat room, that it is almost impossible to have a private chat with anybody, and from my experience, actually talking about diapers is discouraged. I have always felt that it is better to just ignore the trolls than to punish everybody else to try to avoid them. Posted content can be moderated to eliminate pervs. I liked DPF’s old chatroom. Sure, there were alot of creeps, but I am smart enough to not end up getting stalked by one.
Us three girls have designed a great ABDL social network website and its only the beginning. http://www.mydltown.com
Well no offense, but I was on your site for about 10 seconds and after having an annoying ad pop up under my mouse cursor… and follow it around for 10 seconds before disappearing so that I couldn’t even click anything until it went away… I don’t plan to be back or create a profile… ever lol
Furthermore I like how you downloaded the original DLtown logo and (very crappily mind you) photoshopped out the white background instead of taking the 15 mins to simply redraw the logo so it would actually look good.
Also the site is very obviously just another “out-of-the-box” site just like diaperspace was. So I’m sure we can expect very little customization, virtually no custom features, half-broken built-in features, and more problems over the years as you mishmosh updates into the site’s framework.
I guess if you don’t mind all the ads and the overall feel of another diaperspace… meh
If you don’t like that site, just keep your tushie padded for a couple more weeks until I get the beta version of our new social network up and running. I’m putting the polish on the chat system right now and then I’ll start building the profile/gallery systems. At some point I suppose I’ll toss up a home page so you all can see the progress there 😉
I have been reading the post and comments here for a some time now and I finally wanted to throw my “two cents” in. I have been looking for a good DL/incontanent social site for a long time and I’m glad I found this one.
I’m just gonna say a couple of things about me. I am a well known business owner with multiple college degrees so privacy is a must. I have been a DL since childhood and I have had full urinary incontinance since an auto accident in 2005. I have always hidden this from everyone. Only my two CEO’s know about my love of diapers (they are my friends since childhood) and my incon. My parents and my doctors know about my incon but not my love of diapers.
I would like to say that I hate being so secretive about my incon and me being a DL. Too many people are judgemental and too closed minded to accept people how they are and I’m tired of it. we need a site that can only be accessed by members only (to keep most perverts out) and a monitoring system to get rid of the “bad apples” as they come along.
@chippymonk. I like your ideas and views on things. You seen to think more logically and I like people who think with more logic and creativity. Don’t change that aspect of you. I pay my CEO’s as much as I do because they are “logically creative” and they have an excellent sense of humor (they can “laugh at themselves” and their mistakes).
@Adrian. Thank you for making this blog so informative and clean. I have been looking for a good information site since I became incon. Your efforts are greatly appreciated
Speaking of “two cents” I just posted about two dollars worth of info on the new progress update page I’ve created for our new social site.
I just ask that you forgive the plain look of the page lol I didn’t want to spend any more time on a page that will eventually be deleted than I had to.
Feel free to give it a look. I also posted something just letting everyone know who I am, what I’m planning, and why I’m doing it.
Comments/Flames may be directed to: email@example.com
I would like to just connect with other dl on my current fb real profile but without someone displaying or referencing wear diapers but just knowing there is someone who shares in the same thing. If we could keep our diapers private but be friends on a regular profile. Anyone know what I mean?
I am a retired teacher and daddy type who enjoys helping women explore their inner child again. I have learned a lot from mommy types who have had experience in babying younger women, in a safe, supportive, and consensual setting. There are a lot of high powered women out there who welcome the power exchange. Your site is the most rational I have come across and I should think that if people are able and willing to articulate their thoughts, they will no doubt find kindred spirits.
Thahks for being here and I have bookmarked your site. mendy
Adrian has, as usual, hit the nail on the head with this one. I for one would be very interested in more opportunities for quality socialization with other DLs, both on and off the internet.
I feel like a good social network would be very blog centric. Blogs require investment of time and effort, and they give a sense of voice and identity which is too often absent in the diaper community. encouraging users to create new content for the community and rewarding them with incentive points every time someone hit the content’s “like” button. Incentive points could be used to access premium site features one would normally expect to pay money for. Funding could happen through a site store in which various ABDL vendors could sell their products. The social network would be entitled to a percentage of anything sold through this store.
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Adrian has, as usual, hit the nail on the head with this one. I for one would be very interested in more opportunities for quality socialization with other DLs, both on and off the internet.
I feel like a good social network would be very blog centric. Blogs require investment of time and effort, and they give a sense of voice and identity which is too often absent in the diaper community.
Growth and quality interaction could be promoted by encouraging users to create new content for the community and rewarding them with incentive points every time someone hit the content’s “like” button. Incentive points could be used to access premium site features one would normally expect to pay money for. Funding could happen through a site store in which various ABDL vendors could sell their products. The social network would be entitled to a percentage of anything sold through this store.
Well no offense chip off the old block, but I was on your site abdltown site for about 10 seconds notice its only a blog with a photoshop photo of a ripped off website. Furthermore I like how you downloaded the original DLtown logo and (very crappily mind you) photoshopped out the background instead of taking the 15 mins to simply redraw the logo so it would actually look good. your preview is a photochopped photo your site is now labeled as a copycat. most members agree that you should make a new domain name since you just basically are being a copycat site ewww also noticed your test pictures are from google and google has not giving your promising to use those photos 10 years experience my bum your noob, an amateur.
http://www.mydltown.com/ is the original site
Personally I have already found a site I’m quite happy with, and it’s not a social network type of site, but a message board.
Message boards are better to get to know people than social networks in my opinion, especially if they have an IRC or webchat with a few regulars. You get to know a lot of people and their opinions if you check by regulary and read current topics, you see who only writes about diapers all day and who is mostly talking about interesting non-diaper related things, and there is never a pressure to meet up, but after some time of being a newbie, people might warm up to meet up or to come to a message board meetup in a certain country (even if they have to travel out of country a bit). Practically you know some of the people you are going to meet beforehand, and you have a starting point for conversations and if you get a ‘party pooper’ (pun intended) you’ll know you won’t be the only one who wants to leave.
With a social network on the other hand, your profile is the center of attention, and you get all kinds of people who aren’t really interested in a long-term friendly ‘relationship’, they just want their quick fix of pictures or think people register there to meet people in real life. You could make a social network site with a focus on discussing certain topics, of course, which would make it similar to a message board, but then some people would probably not get it right away, and you can’t really call yourself a social network if you disallow newbies looking at profiles and writing personal messages, some things you can easily do with a site that focuses on public discussions.
Message boards aren’t perfect, either, of course, because everybody has to find one where he finds the right sort of people, but just passively reading a board a few weeks before making an introductory post usually helps avoiding some pitfalls, like choosing a silly nickname aka d1ppersboi or using a crotch shot as an avatar picture. And message boards you might dislike are easy to spot, too, and you don’t waste too much time as it’s hard to imagine that somebody doesn’t notice it after a day or two of reading.
Have you tried wettingwonderland.com. Its pretty much the same kinda deal as Diaperspace but is run so much better with great moderation. Its relitivley new (about 6 months) but already has lots of members and even their own radio station is about to start.
I’m in the works of something like this, been working on it for a while. Put it on line once found some bugs pulled it back offline, once I work through the kinks fully it will be back online. Then maybe we can talk about it.
Hello all. I agree with the author here that diaperspace and other sites really need to get very professional and add all the features that face book has and more. I don’t mean the owners are unprofessional just that they don’t have a very professional site. I as a web developer really understand how problems can happen and bringing side down and nothing you can do about it. I noticed the new diaperspace was much less face book now, but evidently it must have crashed. I don’t think the owners of diaperspace are money hungry. They don’t charge anything for its users. Also I remember when I first started she did and 1/2 to keep it going without money so I suggested advertisement. I do think the advertisement might be a little overboard. I agree with one of the comment people above that there should be separate the DL site. Maybe some kind of filter. I am a AB/DL, but I would rather go without the porn and nudity. So it would be great to have another site without any nudity. Maybe a filter would be good it would be like a different site for each filter setting. As long as people take their photos correctly or check marked none nudity.