I wanted to address on my blog the issue recently that has been brought to attention between ABUniverse and their partnership with a site that is known to harbor disgusting stories, photos, people, etc of children in relation to diapers. For those who do not know the site – it is called “Deeker’s”. I will not link to the site nor will I repeat the site’s name more than once because the site is disgusting in my opinion. Anyways, I want to address two sides to this issue that I have:
First, ABUniverse is a small adult baby diaper company. These are the facts:
- The site ABUniverse partnered with, no matter how short, is disgusting and contains inappropriate material that can easily be considered illegal.
- ABUniverse DID partner with them.
- ABUniverse issued a retraction AFTER people had a problem with the partnership.
These are the facts. Nobody will ever know whether ABUniverse knew what they were doing and was trying to leach traffic from the disgusting people who visit that site or whether they were just oblivious to what they were involved in.
Either reason presents a problem to me. First, if they did try to leach traffic from that site to help buy their products then that is completely wrong, disgusting, etc on so many levels and is a serious issue with me. Second, if they were just oblivious to it then that tells something about their company and how out of touch they are with their customer base (ABDLs).
Some people will say that I just do not like ABUniverse and that is why I am writing an article on this. But, that is just not the case. I don’t hate them nor do I think you should not buy from them – but it does give you some choices to make about where you buy adult diapers from and brings into question YOUR feelings on the topic. ANY COMPANY that did this whether online or in the real world – I would have a problem with them! I have extremely strong feelings towards this topic.
Sites dealing with children and underage is WRONG, period! There is no other justification needed. It is just wrong. Disgusting, nasty, disturbing, and makes me depressed thinking about it. So, MY feelings on this may be stronger than many of yours on this topic because I know the harm and impact these disgusting sites can have on people. Don’t try to justify these sites with your “ageplay” reasons – don’t give me that – it’s WRONG and you know it. Don’t try to justify it. There is a line and sites like that CROSS IT BIG TIME.
I think it is great that ABUniverse puts out products for the ABDL community…that is a good thing and I commend them for that. But, they continually give reasons over time that brings into question their reputability as a company as well as many other things with them. First, it was poor customer service (seems to be somewhat solved but still have heard of some issues); Second, they were actively on boards posing as customers trying to get people to buy their products (lying); Third, their price of their products is suspect because of how high it is compared to other adult diapers (inflated profit margin); And Finally, ABUniverse now actively engaged in a partnership with a well known site that has disgusting stories, photos, sightings, people, etc dealing with children and diapers. Those are the facts – people have named some other things to me about them but I will not speculate on those because they are not facts.
Overall, do I think you should stop buying from ABUniverse? No, probably not. But, should it question where you buy adult diapers from and who you want to support based on your morals and logic? YES, definitely..
I came accross “that” site a long time ago when I was first discovering the internet and diapers. I did not think much about it then, but now I totally agree with how you feel about it. I have my few sites that I frequent (yours being one) and that is about it. As far as the ABuniverse diapers I have not tried them, as I have heard that the bambino’s are better in quality and that is what I am more concerned about. But I do admit I have not tried them, and I dod not foresee trying them out.
OMG! Eww! I often get requests from sites that want link exchanges and affiliates, but I always go over them first to make sure they’re above ground. I must have missed this because it wasn’t directly on ABU’s site.
Hmm or not i tought that site was down abit ago 🙁
I am so happy that I chose dailydiapers and diaperspace instead of checking out the unnamed website. My biggest fear when it came down to embracing infantilism was being labeled in the wrong group. I have yet to do business with ABU due to the high cost per diaper, however the recent incident is making me less likely to ever justify the cost.
deeker is certainly a bad site however I wouldn’t list it as the worst site sadly. In the hierarchy of ab/dl sites I would say this is how it goes, with #1 being the best and as the numbers descend becoming worse (Id say #1-#3 are good and below that the sites get pretty bad).
4) diaper boys
5) “unnamed site”
6) dpf (aka hell on earth)
Luckily dpf is dead, along with Tommy hopefully.
I’m not sure how diaper boys is that bad a site. Yes, it allows under 18s on the site, but there is no nudity and you’re not even allowed to talk about sex on it. IMO, it’s no worse than Facebook or Myspace (creeper havens). Definitely wouldn’t put DB in my top list of sites, but wouldn’t put it right above “unnamed site” either.
I do agree completely about “unnamed site” though. ABU definitely needs to get in shape or get out of the business. Definitely aren’t off to a great start as a company…
I agree D**kers is a sick site.
You can tell something is wrong when it obsessively has nothing but underage drawn boys all over its website.
Well, they are advertising plain vinyl pants as “polyurethane”, and they’re not. There is a world of difference between vinyl and polyurethane!! I have worn both and now only buy/use the polyurethane although I still have some vinyl ones left. Polyurethane is far far tougher than vinyl and won’t stiffen and crack in use. In fact polyurethane feels a lot like rubber but far stronger and more resistant to oils and creams.
Seems like false advertising to me.
I haven’t spent any time on that site so I had no idea it was that bad. Its all fiction though, right? Not real kids, I would hope. Because there’s a big difference between the two in my opinion. Sick stories are a lot different than real predators.
Hmmm, agreed! That being said, I just ordered 20 of the cushies 2 days ago, my first purchase. I just wanted to see, they’re too much to keep on hand for the long term. After years of buying diapers online, was always impressed at how darned quick they get out the door and to my home. It’s taken AB U over 24 hours since I ordered to get them “ready” for pickup and delivery. Compared to other online diaper suppliers seems painfully slow.
I personally find the “unnamed” site uninteresting at best. I am not into his type of fantasy at all.
I’ve not perused his site, but I did stop there and read his “info” page. Not my cup of tea.
Has anyone here heard of the new laws being debated in Japan concerning Manga comics? I’ve been catching snippets here and there about it.
I’m torn. On one hand, we can be all self-righteous about the issue and outlaw any site that mentions minors in diapers in connection to anything sexual. Even if the minors in question are constructs of the imagination. Such would be the moral course, right?
On the other, you can kiss freedom of speech goodbye. I agree that any such treatment of a minor or unconsenting adult as portrayed on “unnamed’s” site that happens to a REAL person is unconscionable, immoral, and illegal. However, to outlaw the imaginary depiction of such events, whether written or drawn, means that you are standing upon a slippery slope.
Once we begin saying that the imaginary depiction of diapered minors is illegal, we open the door to saying that anything the powers-that-be don’t like is illegal. Where does it stop? Should “Lolita” never have been written about or filmed? Anyone here ever look into Charles Lutwidge Dodgson’s (Lewis Carrol) history and read any of his other novels? “Unconventional” to say the least.
I’m arguing on the side of caution and jurisprudence here. If the “unnamed” site were truly illegal, I have no doubt that it would have been taken down and the owner/operator/manager would have been jailed in a heartbeat. After all, society cares about it’s children, right?
I’ll get flamed for this opinion, I know. I just feel that morals and ethics should be enough to guide people away from the “unnamed” site, because once you get the law involved there can be no going back. Once you ban the “speech” you don’t like, it gets easier to ban more speech in the future. Including your own.
Also, not a single one of us just popped into the world already 18 years of age. Were I 16 or 17 years old and found his site, I may have been glad to read the stories and view the pics. Freedom of speech works both ways. I have the right to say what I want so long as I do not harm another (not without proof, anyways), and shouldn’t I also have the right to read what I want, so long as I do no harm to another?
Hi and Whoa!! ABU has had one rocky start as a company to the abdl community. As for the mentioned site I really don’t remember it. It was sometime in the late 90’s. 98 or 99 somewhere in that time frame. Its all live and learn in this day and age. Not long ago on Diaperspace there is a blog entry right along the lines of this topic here. The blog is title ABU just lost me as a customer and maybe you too. I copied this address off my web browser. Just copy the web address and it should take you right to it.
Should you not be able to find that blog entry with the address just go to Diaperspace and go under blogs. About twenty pages or so in you should see there. Maybe on page 23 or so but it is there.
As for furture dealings with ABU, it’ll be a wait and see what happens and lets hope they get there act together.
I never heard of this d**kers? I did have a bad deal with AB UNIVERSE in which I bought a bag of there cushies diapers. I thought they were cute and I wanted to try them with there only 2 tapes instead of four like bambinos have. They also advertised them with baby fresh scent for a few extra dollars. I paid like 30 dollars for 1 bag and im very disapointed. The tapes dont stick at all and there was no scent to the diapers at all. My mom even tried putting them on me and the tapes dont stick at all. I emailed them about this and as of today they never got back to me and its been like 2 weeks now. Ill never buy stuff from them again. Ill keep using the bambinos.
I am with everyone else, I came across the site ages ago and didnt think twice what it was about, I just assumed it was another ABDL website, I am guessing that is what ABUniverse assumed as well and that could explain the odd relationship.
I do not agree with such topics, they disgust me, and to think I defended him simply because I thought people were just being bullies, but now that I know the truth its no wonder such hate mail has been sent to him.
The service from ABUniverse isnt an issue for me, the website in question is!
Hello again. I posted a reply to another topic about my first order with ABU. I had no trouble. I placed the order on a Tuesday and got it by the next Tuesday. I’ve seen a bit here and there some people that have order say they have had trouble with the tapes on the new cushies. I had no problem with them not to long ago when i got them for my stay at home vacation. I was able to re fasten them at least two times to get a tight fit. That reply mention is under the Adult Daiper Competion topic on this very good blog site here. I know it will be a good while before I order anything from them given this current trouble with the unmentioned site. Speaking of another diaper site has anyone ever heard of or placed an order at CLASSYCOMFORTDIAPERS.COM? They have all printed disposable diapers and I’m really interested in them for a print type of diaper.
Have a nice day everyone.
Gaggeth me with a spoon. Me and Leyah will never order from ABU now. Companies that condone such sites needn’t be consumed from.
8 diapers for $30 ($3.75 EACH) or
48 for $96 ($2 EACH)?!!!
No way will I pay that. But I suppose if all you needed/wanted them for was “playing at diapers” then maybe.
I have MS with the bladder/bowel control problems it brings so I wear diapers 24/7. I just couldn’t afford those all the time!
I’ve been going to that site for well over 10 years. It was one of the few sites meant to meet the needs of TB/AB/DL alike. It offered interesting stories, although many of them are far outlandish now and cross the line into many sexually explicitness and harsh punishment. Anymore now I filter through the stories and statistics that are presented and really believe most of it is so fake and not nearly as truth as one suspects.
Yeah there’s much to be desired about the site, and yes there is potential for the wrong type of people coming to that site. You can name as many other sites that are as dangerous, but I believe you really do need to give abuniverse the benefit of retracting. They are trying their best to listen and make changes to their product and handling of them.
All I hear is a lot of criticism coming from them. I’m not sure what else needs to be done to improve what services they are providing.
As far as determining moralistic values regarding policies and such But I also live by one moral principle “Judge not, lest you be judged”!
Good point, Inky. I try to follow the old saying, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
Unfortunately, many people out there seem to feel that their own life cannot be properly lived without severe guidance, therefore they have no compunctions against guiding others.
What most people don’t seem to get is: To strengthen something, oppose it. It works with muscles, books, movies, and ideologies. Every time a person or group tries to ban something, all they do is drive up interest. Attempting to drive virtually anything to non-existance is a time-tested and proven way of driving it underground, which is often a boon.
Underground movements never die so long as people actively oppose them. All they do is attact more attention to the beast, which will gain more of a following. I’ll bet the caustic treatment here will have boosted the “unnamed site’s” hit count. So long as people come to this site and see the controversy, chances are they will visit there too. Some few will find it to their liking. Perpetuating the vicious cycle.
I really feel you are being too hard on ABUniverse. I live in the pacific northwest and it’s great to have an abdl store so close to me. I was actually able to drive to their warehouse and pick up my order in person. The operation is literally a mom and pop business. The husband is an AB and the wife runs the store so she can work from home with the children. Their disposable diapers aren’t great, but they have fantastic cloth products. But enough about their products.
Deeker’s diaper page is a VAST story site. So much so, I would compare it’s offensive material in proportion to the offensive material on Youtube. And there are some horrible things on Youtube, but we rarely condemn the entire site. Whether you find their content questionable or not is fair judgement on your part and I respect that. But I would suspect that ABU’s partnership was formed hastily and without thorough investigation. Hasty partnerships are dangerous and ABU should be held responsible for that. But after talking to the owner of the business in person, I would find it very difficult to believe that she would endorse or condone the exploitation of underage children.
Adrian, due to the success of your blog (to which I am a fan) you have a very loud voice in the ABDL community. I would caution you about inciting rage and anger in your readers, especially against someone who is simply trying to meet the needs of our shared demographic.
I am not being hard on anyone – you partner with a site like that – you get what is coming to you. Period. I never thought I would see the day anyone would defend in any shape or form a site like that. Period!